I partly disagree. What does it take to be funny? Actually being funny. True, jokes don't work in a vacuum, they need to fit into the main context, but the jokes still have to actually work. My point was that Batman isn't necessarily a serious story - for most of the franchise's existence, with notable exceptions in the late 80s and late 00s - it was frequently only slightly grimmer than Superman, and occasionally completely screwball. B&R shouldn't be criticized for being a lighthearted comedy, which is how I understood the "not meant to be serious" comment; it might have been a great one. It deserves criticism for being a bad lighthearted comedy, with a weak script and actors who have no idea what they're doing. Which may be splitting hairs, but hopefully you know what I mean; it's the difference between, say, Airplane! and Disaster Movie. Both are crazy comedies about serious subjects; in one, you can tell that nobody takes their job seriously.
But throughout Season 8, there hasn't been a single climax for a story arc that fubar'd the tone so completely.
Well, I'd say most of them have, but Twilight is a special brand of wtf, definitely.
Batman never became a huge storytelling deal until it took itself seriously (and I mean more huge deal in box office bang for popularity and critical acclaim as ways to measure it)
Quoth Wikipedia: [Burton's] Batman opened on June 23, 1989, grossing $43.6 million in 2,194 theaters during its opening weekend. This broke the opening weekend record, set by Ghostbusters II one week earlier, with $29.4 million.[42] Batman would eventually gross $251.2 million in North America and $160.15 million internationally, totaling $411.35 million.[43] Batman was the first film to earn $100 million in its first ten days of release,[1] and was the highest grossing film based on a DC comic book, until 2008's The Dark Knight.[44] The film is 42nd highest ever in North American ranks.[45] Although Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade made the most money worldwide in 1989,[46] Batman was able to beat The Last Crusade in North America,[47] and made a further $150 million in home video sales.[48]
It then goes on to mention that fans criticized Burton for making it (quote) "too dark" (end quote). Personally, I think Burton's two movies hold up really well; it's only after that that things go wrong very quickly.
and the geekgasming kept on coming and coming and coming. ;-)
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Date: Jul. 14th, 2010 02:17 pm (UTC)But throughout Season 8, there hasn't been a single climax for a story arc that fubar'd the tone so completely.
Well, I'd say most of them have, but Twilight is a special brand of wtf, definitely.
Batman never became a huge storytelling deal until it took itself seriously (and I mean more huge deal in box office bang for popularity and critical acclaim as ways to measure it)
Quoth Wikipedia: [Burton's] Batman opened on June 23, 1989, grossing $43.6 million in 2,194 theaters during its opening weekend. This broke the opening weekend record, set by Ghostbusters II one week earlier, with $29.4 million.[42] Batman would eventually gross $251.2 million in North America and $160.15 million internationally, totaling $411.35 million.[43] Batman was the first film to earn $100 million in its first ten days of release,[1] and was the highest grossing film based on a DC comic book, until 2008's The Dark Knight.[44] The film is 42nd highest ever in North American ranks.[45] Although Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade made the most money worldwide in 1989,[46] Batman was able to beat The Last Crusade in North America,[47] and made a further $150 million in home video sales.[48]
It then goes on to mention that fans criticized Burton for making it (quote) "too dark" (end quote). Personally, I think Burton's two movies hold up really well; it's only after that that things go wrong very quickly.
and the geekgasming kept on coming and coming and coming. ;-)
*puffs on cigarette* Was it good for you too? :)