Spike has two doors!

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Thanks to everyone who voted in the poll. It was kind of a trick question. :) No lie... slaymesoftly and I thought we were going crazy. She was sure the door was wood, which it certainly looks like in these screencaps:





But I remembered the outside view from "Dead Things," in which Spike's door looks (to me) like weathered stone, though it could also be metal:



Also note the door has windows, with what looks like opaque glass and metal lattice.

On the inside, it's pretty dark, so it's hard to tell what the door looks like, but there's definitely no window:



Once Spike goes outside, the window is back, plus a cute little door handle that is distinctly different from the handle in OMWF (see above):



Patti and I were ready to call it sloppy set design and assume that no attempt had been made to match the doors on the exterior crypt set and the interior crypt set. Until we saw this:





Two doors!! An outer one (which I'm still not sure what it's made of) with the lattice windows and a cute little doorknob, and an inner one, which is solid and looks to be wooden. How is it that no one's noticed this before? And what kind of crack was the person who built this crypt smoking? Unless Spike installed the second door himself, why on earth would a crypt need a double door?

But I think the most significant thing about this discovery is that it puts the "Dead Things" door scene in a whole new perspective. Y'all thought they had some kind of connection, didn't ya? Well, turns out they were making love to different doors! lol

I wonder if that's supposed to be a metaphor for their relationship or something...

Oh, and one more for the conspiracy theorists - in "As You Were," Spike's crypt door definitely opens backwards. What do you suppose that means? ;)



Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go rewrite all my scenes in Spike's crypt to account for his double doors...

Comments

[empresspatti.livejournal.com]

Which gives you a door - depending on interior or exterior crypt scenes - to place the camera...

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Hmmm... I don't think I have enough dedication to go back and study the camera angles to see if they did that! :)

[my-perfect-muse.livejournal.com]

LOL! The tragedy of double doors. I have seen crypts that have more than one door (don't ask for the long story) but that's generally crypts that have more than one room, like big family crypts where children and parents are separated.

But I could swear that there have been a few times where Buffy has kicked in the door to Spike's crypt (from the outside) and it the immediate following shot is inside, with the door being kicked open. Does this mean she kicks both doors open? Or does she politely open the first door and kick open the second door? You have certainly unearthed a mystery here

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Well, as far as I can tell, the outer door opens out, and the inner door opens in (much like if you have a screen door in your house). So she can't kick the outer door, because it opens the wrong way... and now I have a hilarious mental image of Buffy politely opening the first door and then stepping back to give the second one a good kick, lol.

[my-perfect-muse.livejournal.com]

I know, I got exactly the same mental image... and it doesn't really work with the pissed off slayer attitude ;)

[rahirah]

OK, that's just NOT FAIR.

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You're telling me, lol. All those screencaps... would've saved ourselves a lot of trouble if we'd just checked "Intervention" first!

[dee81.livejournal.com]

Hee! You should write a spoof fic about Buffy trying to storm into Spike's crypt and having an annoyingly difficult time due to the confusion of the double doors. I could picture her getting all huffy because it's taking away from the beating up/sex time with Spike :D

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Hahaha, I'm definitely thinking about how to incorporate the double doors into my next fic. :)

[fangfaceandrea.livejournal.com]

But I think the most significant thing about this discovery is that it puts the "Dead Things" door scene in a whole new perspective. Y'all thought they had some kind of connection, didn't ya? Well, turns out they were making love to different doors! lol

I wonder if that's supposed to be a metaphor for their relationship or something...

*Snerk* *LOL* *Snerk*


heee, so I guess we all were a little right. and that makes Spuffy a bit more twisted than we're used to.

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Heh, I suppose the nicer interpretation is that we should be doubly impressed at Spike's ability to sense Buffy through a door, considering there were twice as many doors as we thought. :)

[beloved-77.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I knew about the two doors. Of course, I do have a habit of picking nits :-P

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Dude! And you never told anyone???

[lusciousxander.livejournal.com]

OMG, I never knew about the two doors!! All my fics that feature Spike's crypt are jossed now *pouts* :)

Great observation.

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Haha, I know... I'll be frantically rewriting all week!

[riccadonna.livejournal.com]

I woke up to find this post: now what am I supposed to do with the rest of my day?

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Hee... is that because you'd intended to spend the day investigating Spike's door and I blew it for you? Or because I've rocked your world so much you don't know if you can go on? lol

[bendy1.livejournal.com]

That makes... the door scene extra weird. And the kicking of the door scene even weirder.

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It does! I am slightly concerned now...

[dragonflylady77.livejournal.com]

Hehehe at making love to different doors..
On the subject of doors, I am *sure* I saw Buffy's front door open the other way in one episode, in season 1 or 2... I just can't remember when but I remember it shocked me.

And yes, why would a crypt need two doors.. *is puzzled*

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I remembered you saying that when I saw the "As You Were" cap... but I'll leave that investigation to someone else. I've done my door duty for the week, lol.

[ldyavalon.livejournal.com]

The two door thing would be at least sane if they were not together. Different escape route and all that (yes, I'm paranoid :P) But one next to the other. Unless one is decorative, or something :P

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Well, he does seem to be able to get out to the sewers from the lower level...

Maybe having two doors is a measure of security - anyone wanting to break in would have to get through both (though it doesn't seem to stop Buffy, lol).

[ldyavalon.livejournal.com]

He doesn't want to stop Buffy. Maybe it's a against-everything-except-Buffy door...

[silverusagi]

And what kind of crack was the person who built this crypt smoking? Unless Spike installed the second door himself, why on earth would a crypt need a double door?

Why on earth would a crypt need to be that big, LOL? I suppose if you've got money to build a crypt as big as a small apartment (with only one apparent sarcophagus), you also do it with an entryway.

I wonder if that's supposed to be a metaphor for their relationship or something...

Like... 1. There's always space between them and they can never truly connect. 2. Oops, we forgot about the doors while filming this.

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Why on earth would a crypt need to be that big, LOL?

Another excellent question. Maybe it was supposed to be a family crypt, but the rest of the family ended up being buried somewhere else? I also wonder if the lower level is supposed to be part of the crypt, or if there just happens to be an underground cavern beneath the crypt (in which case, I'm surprised the weight of the building didn't cave it in).

[louise39.livejournal.com]

What fun! Where is the continuity of set design? No wonder their relationship is so disjointed and fluid when even a door has no permanence.

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No, no, no! That's the beauty of the double doors! See, we thought there was no continuity of set design, but it turns out there IS - it's all the same doors, but sometimes we only see the outside one in the shot, and other times only the inside. :)

[larabeckinsale.livejournal.com]

Two doors!! An outer one (which I'm still not sure what it's made of) with the lattice windows and a cute little doorknob, and an inner one, which is solid and looks to be wooden. How is it that no one's noticed this before? And what kind of crack was the person who built this crypt smoking? Unless Spike installed the second door himself, why on earth would a crypt need a double door?

LOL... It really doesn't make any sense the two doors thing! But I think Spike installed the second one, I think it was in "Something Blue" that we see the crypt (where the scoobies are attacked by the demons) that would eventually become Spike's and I think by then it only had one door... maybe...

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Is that the same crypt? I figured it was probably the same set, maybe dressed slightly different, but I was never sure if it was supposed to be the same crypt or not.

[larabeckinsale.livejournal.com]

I always thought so, but I better watch that ep again... just to check on the door, you know, not for the spuffy kissing or anything like that ;)

[menomegirl.livejournal.com]

LOL! Great detective work and wow does that put a different perspective on that door/sex scene or what?

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LOL, thanks... have to give credit to my partner in crime slaymesoftly as well. :)

[kimrae1977.livejournal.com]

Didn't everyone know about the two doors? *blinks innocently*

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Guess not... considering none of the people who voted in the poll said, "Uh, actually, he has two doors, made of two different materials." :-P

[moscow-watcher.livejournal.com]

Wow. Never noticed that. Live and learn! :)

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I anticipate a whole slew of fics now where Spike has two doors. :)

[moscow-watcher.livejournal.com]

As well as meta with explanation that two doors are a metaphor of his man/vampire dichotomy. Or something like that... :)

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[yourlibrarian]

I remember noting the two doors before, but never thought about it in relation to that scene! I imagine it was built that way to avoid having to build an outside set when the door opens.

Re: Here from buffyversetop5

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Hmm, possibly, although it does occasionally look like you can see outside from inside the crypt, even with the two doors. My first thought was that they didn't bother to match the outside set with the inside set, but on closer examination, it seems that they did.

[gabrielleabelle.livejournal.com]

My sister suggests that this is a mud room where people can leave their shoes and coats before entering his crypt. She's weird.

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Well, if that's the case, perhaps he ought to invest in a coat rack...