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In commenting on my recent fic "Seeing Things," [personal profile] rebcake mentioned that she'd struggled with how Xander came to accept Spike in season 7. I thought that was interesting, because I always thought it made perfect sense, to the point where post-series fics that have Xander still being hostile to Spike are jarring to me. Aside from the obvious (Spike has a soul now), I think it's just one piece of a larger character arc for Xander.

Xander's acceptance of Spike is all part of his character arc in becoming “the one who sees everything,” as Caleb says. He spends a lot of season 6 being blind to things that are right in front of him, both in his relationship with Anya, and in not recognizing Buffy's and Willow’s spirals into self-destruction. Part of his blindness is his failure to recognize the changes in Spike (changes he’d previously begun to accept in seasons 4 and 5), and his persistence in seeing him in black and white – evil, soulless thing, incapable of love or redemption, etc.

But Xander’s arc is all about overcoming that blindness and seeing things as they truly are. He starts to do this in "Seeing Red," when he acknowledges that he hasn't been there for Buffy. We see him face Willow’s issues head-on in "Grave," when he understands her well enough to keep her from ending the world. And it continues in season 7, as he gains perspective on his relationship with Anya, sees Dawn as special when she’s the only girl in the house who doesn’t have a special destiny, and is able to see Buffy in what I think is the truest light of the entire series – not as a potential girlfriend or an object to be won, not as an idealized hero (or one who's failed to live up to his ideals), but as a human being, a friend, and a leader. And again, Spike ties into this arc, as Xander is able to let go of his old beliefs and prejudices and see him for who he truly is, who he has become.

This also fits into the larger arc of repeatedly building Xander up and then knocking him down again. When we first see him, he’s an outcast, a loser – only two friends to his name, mocked by the popular kids, and it’s implied that he’s dumb as a box of rocks. But over seasons 1-3, we see him grow – he becomes athletic (or at least, he’s on the swim team), he's no longer teased, he's dating the most popular girl in school, and even losing her doesn’t hurt his confidence. Plus, he’s managed to make himself a useful and valuable member of the Scooby gang, even with no special powers to rely on.

But then they graduate high school, and Xander is bumped back to the bottom when he can't make the transition. His friends go off to college; he’s stuck in the basement. He's the loser again, left out, useless. The next two seasons see Xander fighting his way back up – with a new girlfriend, a new career, and a new apartment. By the end of season 5, he’s got just about everything he could want. And then he proposes to Anya…

…and down he goes again. He’s making another transition, this time from an independent young adult to a real man, and he spends most of season 6 struggling with that concept. If this were a literal growth story, his arc probably would’ve ended with him being married and having babies, having finally finished growing up. (But when has Joss ever told that story?) Instead, Xander’s final stage of maturity is his philosophical journey. In season 6, he's challenged in a lot of ways - in his friendships, in his relationship, and in his worldview. A lot of people have mentioned in various contexts the shift from simplistic black-and-white morality to shades of grey as a sign of maturity, and I think it's very true for Xander. In season 7, he's lost his prejudices, he's less judgmental (of both friends and enemies), he accepts people for who they are and recognizes their strengths, even when others may overlook them. And he finally knows what his place is, as "the one who sees everything."

It's interesting to look at the end of season 7 as another turning point - maybe it's losing his eye, maybe it's losing Anya, maybe it's just the upheaval of having your hometown destroyed and changing the world and having to deal with it. But it makes me wonder what the next stage of Xander's ups-and-downs would be, how he'll fall and pull himself back up. I don't think we've really seen that in the comics yet (unless you count spending a year with Dracula... which I guess would be a pretty low point, especially if he was a bug-eating butt-monkey the whole time). I'd be curious to see if there are fics out there that explore that pattern further.

So, yeah. Probably more than you ever wanted to hear from me about Xander. I know there are a lot of people who hate him some or all of the time, and while I can certainly see the low points (but then, who doesn't have flaws?), it's pretty cool to step back and look at the ebb and flow of his character.

Date: Aug. 12th, 2008 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dawnofme.livejournal.com
I don't often sit back and think about Xander. It's not that I hate him, but he's not the character that interests me the most.

I personally saw him as the writer's self insert. Which I don't think is completely bad a thing.

It seemed to me that Xander's behavior throughout the whole show was right on for him. I didn't like all of what he was, but he made sense.

Of course he isn't going to like vampires. Like you said, he had two friends in the beginning, and one of them one was killed by a vampire. When you only have a couple of friends, you cherish them and are usually closer to them than a person who has many friends.

He grudgingly let his guard down with Angel and that didn't end well.

I loved Xander with Cordelia. That's like the ultimate geek guy's dream and it was fun to watch.

I did not like how he treated Anya. Except for one scene, I never got the feeling that Xander really cared for Anya. It was like she was just there, she was clingy and he went with the flow. I don't just blame Xander for that though. Anya let it happen.

I think you are right about the building up and knocking down of the character. This just made him seem real. Like someone you might meet on the street or on a construction site.

I don't read the comics, so I have no idea what's going on there. But I will say that the way they are drawing him makes me more interested in him. He looks strong and confident and slightly angry. That I like.



Date: Aug. 12th, 2008 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] empresspatti.livejournal.com
Really good meta. I have always like Xander. He was everyman in a tough situation, doing his best.

As for season 8 - feh. I'm glad I don't know......

Date: Aug. 12th, 2008 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] empresspatti.livejournal.com
he makes a go of it and does his best, standing shoulder to shoulder with people way more powerful than he is and claiming to be their equal.

Real food for thought. Both were good role models.

I never took any of it seriously (my karma for life)but S8 seems to me to be what happened between 'real' jobs. I'd be amazed if the verse continued once Dollhouse is up and running.

Date: Aug. 12th, 2008 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] empresspatti.livejournal.com
Goood point about Buffy.

I think I don't really care about Angel. I saw some of the first season and all of the last seasons (cuz Spike) but never made a point to see the whole series.

Also - never was a comic girl, so it is easy for me to skip them. All I'd really be interested in is when Buffy and Spike meet up again - which is never going to happen in canon....

Which is why I am so glad you write such excellent fiction!

Date: Aug. 12th, 2008 06:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] stormwreath.livejournal.com
Interesting stuff, and a way of looking at him that I'd not really considered before. He definitely seems much more mature and tough in S8, but like you say, that probably means something really, really bad is about to happen...

Date: Aug. 12th, 2008 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rebcake.livejournal.com
I think you are right, overall, in where he ends up, but I felt cheated that none of the pivotal moments were shown on the show. After Angel, I don't think a soul would mean much to Xander, but if it did it would have been nice to hear him react to it with anything other than scorn (Him). At the beginning of Season 7, he's still ranting about Spike attempting to rape Buffy (Beneath You), which is something he is guilty of, himself (The Pack). It's true that he doesn't grind on about Spike sleeping with Anya, though, which is a sign of some awareness on his part. He harangues Buffy about her involvement with Spike when Anya goes on the rampage (Selfless). He bitches about Spike moving in (Him) almost as much as he did in Season 4 (Hush).

And then, all of a sudden, he becomes a rational creature where Spike is concerned. He talks about him leaving wet towels lying around, like a normal roommate would kvetch, he stops with the (cruel) nicknames, they team up to ferret out the evil letterman jacket (Him). He calmly states his objections to having Spike around when the trigger comes to light (Sleeper), but accepts Buffy's decision, even when Anya goads him. "You've always been part of the 'Spike is evil' faction." "I've got a house to put back together." (Never Leave Me)

This is where the light went on for me, that Xander had changed. But where did it happen? Why? In the space of 2.5 episodes (one of which doesn't even have Xander in it) he's suddenly got a clue. After YEARS of hatred and resentment. The writers' expected us to make a huge leap here, with nothing to back it up. So, yes, I struggle. I seek out reasonable explanations in fanfic. One of which you have thoughtfully provided. Yay, you!

Date: Aug. 12th, 2008 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rebcake.livejournal.com
Well, yeah, in retrospect, by the middle of "Him" Xander has come to some sort of rapprochement with Spike. But man, at the beginning, he seems pretty much the same ol' angry young man. I like to think that his defense of Anya allowed him to see another perspective, but there's no evidence of it during the moving in speech.

XANDER: Are you keeping up, or do you need some kind of English-to-ConstantPainInMyAss translation? I invite you in. Nimrod.

BUFFY
The school basement is making him crazy. We can't just leave him there.

XANDER
Why not? Crazy-Basement-Guy is better than Stalking-Buffy-Guy.

BUFFY
OK, it's just—things are different now—he has a soul.

XANDER
I'm sure that'll be a real comfort when he soulfully attacks you again.

For Xander, the soul equals no big whoop, apparently. Why should it? Nobody knows what it is/does. It didn't mean Angel could be entirely trusted, by Xander at any rate. He's still harping about the attempted rape. Why shouldn't he? Everybody but Buffy, including Spike, thinks it was egregious, and his own guilt would make Spike seem guiltier, I'd think. Xander is still concerned with protecting Buffy's virtue, whether she needs it or not. He's emphatically just stated that he prefers a broken, powerless Spike to the old, virile model.

From this, we go directly to Xander never again calling Spike names (I think), never mentioning the attempted rape, working with him with equanimity, and thereafter allowing Buffy to run her own personal life (except when under a spell). None of these things happened when Spike lived with him in Season 4. He's older and hopefully wiser, sure, but it still seems like an awfully abrupt change of heart, to me at least. Heh. I'll stop now. The world does not hang in the balance on this issue. Probably.

Date: Aug. 12th, 2008 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slaymesoftly.livejournal.com
*waves hand* I don't hate Xander. I think - no doubt because of his obvious ups and downs - that he can be written in many ways. Which makes him a great character to work with. He can be the villain, the comic relief, the hero, the good friend, etc. and so on. *g*

Date: Aug. 12th, 2008 09:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slaymesoftly.livejournal.com
LOL We could...you can only join the club if you've written something with Xander in which he is not something to hate or laugh at.

Date: Aug. 13th, 2008 07:48 pm (UTC)

Date: Aug. 13th, 2008 05:52 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] moscow-watcher.livejournal.com
*small voice* May I join the club? Here are my credentials:

http://community.livejournal.com/spring_with_xan/44007.html

Date: Aug. 13th, 2008 08:03 pm (UTC)

Date: Aug. 13th, 2008 08:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] moscow-watcher.livejournal.com
BTW, here are my Xander icons... :)))

http://community.livejournal.com/spring_with_xan/44180.html

Date: Aug. 13th, 2008 08:20 pm (UTC)
deird1: Fred looking pretty and thoughful (Default)
From: [personal profile] deird1
I'd like to submit a formal application for entrance...

Date: Aug. 13th, 2008 11:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonflylady77.livejournal.com
I really enjoyed this post and all the comments because it made me think. Which is good. I'm not an overly analytical person so thank you for making me think about Xander for a change!! ^_^

Date: Aug. 13th, 2008 05:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] moscow-watcher.livejournal.com
I think Xander's attitude to Spike has radically changed after Selfless. I also think his overall attitude to life changed after he realized that he can't stop loving Anya even when she's a demon.

As to fics, I totally adore Shadowscast's stuff. I think she writes the best Xander.

http://shadowscast.popullus.net/fiction_list.html#Buffy

Date: Aug. 13th, 2008 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mpoetess.livejournal.com
Over from [livejournal.com profile] su_herald to give this analysis massive love. Hell, I'm a Xander/Spike shipper and I could never quite ferret out how things work in season 7, and why Xander might give Spike credit for his soul when he never did for Angel. Your rationale about the BS split-personality view vs. the evidence of change clicks perfectly for me.

(As do your comments to [livejournal.com profile] dawnofme about Xander/Anya.)

Date: Aug. 13th, 2008 08:19 pm (UTC)
deird1: Fred looking pretty and thoughful (Default)
From: [personal profile] deird1
Gotta say, I think the episode Selfless did a lot to change his attitude towards Spike. I just love watching that argument - with Buffy and him getting more and more vehement and angry, and then Buffy says "I killed Angel!" (and FINALLY brings up Xander's lie), and he just seems so incredibly shocked.
After that, about the closest he ever gets to questioning Buffy's decisions is "Buff, I'm trying to see your point. But I think it must be to my left," in Empty Places.

Date: Aug. 13th, 2008 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lycomingst.livejournal.com
I've always been a Xander enthusiast. It's great to read this lovely meta about him. The idea of his climbing up only to be knocked down again is something I can see.

Thanks for this great piece.

Date: Jan. 30th, 2012 06:04 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mcmegan
I'm stalking your old entries (since I can't read any further on Lost right now) and I need to throw in that I love Xander. I love his snoopy dance and one of my favorite episodes is the one with 2 xanders (don't know the title). I don't analyze Buffy so much, and really haven't watched it in a while, but just needed to add that I'm part of the Xander fan club.
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