Incoherent Lost flailing
Apr. 17th, 2011 02:21 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
next_to_normalHoly shit, you guys! I love this show!!! I take back all the bad things I said about it!!
Okay, so when we last left off, Sayid had just shot little Ben. Now, Faraday has said that you can't change things, so I didn't really expect Ben to die, but man, the idea that Ben is the way he is BECAUSE Sayid shot him? Brilliant. I love the way this time travel works. Sayid was back in time, thinking he could save them all from Ben, and ended up turning him into the very monster he was trying to avoid. Awesome.
And then Hurley and Miles going around in circles, trying to explain the time travel? Hilarious. And also very meta, but mostly just hilarious. (I was reminded of Spike in the "Ben is Glory" scenes. "One more time, from the top...") Also loved Hurley writing Empire Strikes Back. :)
I feel like I should be mad at Jack for refusing to save Ben (again), but... it's just too funny. "I'm making sandwiches." OMG Jack, I love you when you don't give a shit.
As usual, Kate is the weakest link. The way she was all "Don't ever ask me what happened to Aaron" with Jack, I expected something a little more shocking than just... she gave him to his biological grandmother, which is the obvious thing that you'd expect her to do. It is nice that someone FINALLY remembered Claire exists (and also that Kate's reason for going back to the island was less shallow than simply having the hots for Sawyer), although it would be nice if we got any sense that Kate was actually looking for her.
Yaaaayyy! Desmond, Penny, and Charlie are safe! I was worried about them.
So, Miles is Dr. Chang's son. I kind of suspected, since they hinted at him being born on/living on the island at some point back when the time travel nosebleeds were happening. Question, though - if Faraday was also born and raised on the island (at least until Eloise was exiled) why didn't he get the nosebleeds?
Hey, speak of the devil! I was beginning to think he'd fallen into the black hole with Claire, Rose, Bernard, and Cindy the flight attendant. I gotta say, I love the timey-wimey episodes. They're so fatalistic. :) And also occasionally fatal (bye, Faraday, nice knowing you), but it always tickles me when people try to change the past, and end up causing the events they wanted to change. And wow, whole new perspective on Eloise.
ROSE AND BERNARD!!!!!!!! THEY'RE ALIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!!! Bwahahahahahahaha, "They found us." "Son of a bitch." Have I mentioned I love this show? "It's always something with you people."
And Miles, the voice of reason: "Has it occurred to any of you that your buddy's actually gonna cause the thing he says he's trying to prevent? Perhaps that little nuke is the Incident, so maybe the best thing to do is nothing? [silence from everyone else] I'm glad you all thought this through." THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING, MILES. Didn't Sayid and Faraday just prove that when you try to change things, YOU MAKE THEM HAPPEN?
Dammit, Jack. I was just starting to like you, and now you've decided to go all crazy on us again. I thoroughly enjoyed the beatdown Sawyer gave Jack, because Jack is an idiot. You know who likes to blow things up without thinking them through? LOCKE. Remember how I don't like Locke? Don't be like Locke. Please stop giving a shit again. That was fun. *sigh* Oh, Jack. Your glory was short-lived.
Um, words cannot express how much I hate the way Jack and Juliet invoke the Quad of DOOM as their reasons for doing things. I mean, I expect it from Jack at this point, but seriously, detonating a hydrogen bomb is WAY OUT OF PROPORTION in response to screwing up things with Kate.
And Juliet. Oh, Juliet. I love you, but being flighty and insecure and changing your mind because Sawyer looked at Kate at the wrong time? HATE. And, you know, it's exactly things like this that leave me unconvinced about Sawyer/Juliet as a couple. They've been together THREE YEARS and she's still afraid of losing Sawyer to Kate (whom he only knew for a few months and hasn't seen in three years)? That's hardly the foundation of a lasting relationship.
...not that it matters, seeing as how Juliet is probably DEAD. :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( Well, either she's dead or the bomb actually worked and everything's been reset, and at this point I'm kinda torn because I don't want the reset to work from a storytelling perspective, but I kinda do because otherwise NO MORE JULIET.
Okay, so let's sort out the Locke/Ben/Richard/Jacob stuff going on here. I had the feeling pretty early on that something funny was up with Locke, particularly after Ben confessed that he had no idea the island would resurrect Locke. Now we know that Jacob and that other dude are some sort of yin/yang, good/evil duo who have been engaging in the same conflict over and over for centuries, using people they'd somehow "brought" to the island. (Jacob also pops up at critical points in several people's lives - Kate, Sawyer, Sayid, Ilana, Locke, Jin and Sun, Jack, and Hurley. I am trying to figure out what those people have in common, or if Jacob visited EVERYONE and we're only seeing the ones who are still in the cast, lol.) The nature of this conflict seems to be that the evil dude espouses the Lord of the Flies version of human nature, whereas Jacob believes people can be better than that? So far, Jacob's been proven wrong every time, but he keeps thinking maybe this time will be different. And for whatever reason, they can't kill each other.
And now the evil dude's wearing a Locke suit in order to convince Ben to kill Jacob. Which seems like an awful lot of effort to go through for this loophole - wouldn't it have been easier to convince Locke to kill Jacob while he was still alive? Since the evil dude can obviously appear as other people, and Locke's pretty damn gullible.
But okay, so the smoke monster is the one who told Ben to do whatever Locke says, so the smoke monster is a manifestation of the evil dude. And all the things that led to Locke dying and returning to the island were prompted by Christian - which means that Christian is probably also the evil dude, so we probably shouldn't believe anything he says. Which makes me (a) want to rewatch every scene where the smoke monster or someone dead or not on the island appeared in order to figure out whether they were ALL the evil dude, and how that was pushing the characters in a particular direction, (b) worried about Claire, who is pretty much definitely a goner now, and (c) wonder how Sun is going to get in the same time with everyone else, since no one has any interest in helping her. Assuming they're not all dead in 1977, of course.
Also, this has little to do with anything, but I now have a whole personal canon thing worked out where The Immortal Richard is actually The Immortal, you know, Angel and Spike's nemesis, and he leaves the island occasionally to do his Immortal business in Rome or whatever. But seriously, Nestor Carbonell + Sarah Michelle Gellar? HOT.
Okay, so when we last left off, Sayid had just shot little Ben. Now, Faraday has said that you can't change things, so I didn't really expect Ben to die, but man, the idea that Ben is the way he is BECAUSE Sayid shot him? Brilliant. I love the way this time travel works. Sayid was back in time, thinking he could save them all from Ben, and ended up turning him into the very monster he was trying to avoid. Awesome.
And then Hurley and Miles going around in circles, trying to explain the time travel? Hilarious. And also very meta, but mostly just hilarious. (I was reminded of Spike in the "Ben is Glory" scenes. "One more time, from the top...") Also loved Hurley writing Empire Strikes Back. :)
I feel like I should be mad at Jack for refusing to save Ben (again), but... it's just too funny. "I'm making sandwiches." OMG Jack, I love you when you don't give a shit.
As usual, Kate is the weakest link. The way she was all "Don't ever ask me what happened to Aaron" with Jack, I expected something a little more shocking than just... she gave him to his biological grandmother, which is the obvious thing that you'd expect her to do. It is nice that someone FINALLY remembered Claire exists (and also that Kate's reason for going back to the island was less shallow than simply having the hots for Sawyer), although it would be nice if we got any sense that Kate was actually looking for her.
Yaaaayyy! Desmond, Penny, and Charlie are safe! I was worried about them.
So, Miles is Dr. Chang's son. I kind of suspected, since they hinted at him being born on/living on the island at some point back when the time travel nosebleeds were happening. Question, though - if Faraday was also born and raised on the island (at least until Eloise was exiled) why didn't he get the nosebleeds?
Hey, speak of the devil! I was beginning to think he'd fallen into the black hole with Claire, Rose, Bernard, and Cindy the flight attendant. I gotta say, I love the timey-wimey episodes. They're so fatalistic. :) And also occasionally fatal (bye, Faraday, nice knowing you), but it always tickles me when people try to change the past, and end up causing the events they wanted to change. And wow, whole new perspective on Eloise.
ROSE AND BERNARD!!!!!!!! THEY'RE ALIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!!! Bwahahahahahahaha, "They found us." "Son of a bitch." Have I mentioned I love this show? "It's always something with you people."
And Miles, the voice of reason: "Has it occurred to any of you that your buddy's actually gonna cause the thing he says he's trying to prevent? Perhaps that little nuke is the Incident, so maybe the best thing to do is nothing? [silence from everyone else] I'm glad you all thought this through." THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING, MILES. Didn't Sayid and Faraday just prove that when you try to change things, YOU MAKE THEM HAPPEN?
Dammit, Jack. I was just starting to like you, and now you've decided to go all crazy on us again. I thoroughly enjoyed the beatdown Sawyer gave Jack, because Jack is an idiot. You know who likes to blow things up without thinking them through? LOCKE. Remember how I don't like Locke? Don't be like Locke. Please stop giving a shit again. That was fun. *sigh* Oh, Jack. Your glory was short-lived.
Um, words cannot express how much I hate the way Jack and Juliet invoke the Quad of DOOM as their reasons for doing things. I mean, I expect it from Jack at this point, but seriously, detonating a hydrogen bomb is WAY OUT OF PROPORTION in response to screwing up things with Kate.
And Juliet. Oh, Juliet. I love you, but being flighty and insecure and changing your mind because Sawyer looked at Kate at the wrong time? HATE. And, you know, it's exactly things like this that leave me unconvinced about Sawyer/Juliet as a couple. They've been together THREE YEARS and she's still afraid of losing Sawyer to Kate (whom he only knew for a few months and hasn't seen in three years)? That's hardly the foundation of a lasting relationship.
...not that it matters, seeing as how Juliet is probably DEAD. :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( Well, either she's dead or the bomb actually worked and everything's been reset, and at this point I'm kinda torn because I don't want the reset to work from a storytelling perspective, but I kinda do because otherwise NO MORE JULIET.
Okay, so let's sort out the Locke/Ben/Richard/Jacob stuff going on here. I had the feeling pretty early on that something funny was up with Locke, particularly after Ben confessed that he had no idea the island would resurrect Locke. Now we know that Jacob and that other dude are some sort of yin/yang, good/evil duo who have been engaging in the same conflict over and over for centuries, using people they'd somehow "brought" to the island. (Jacob also pops up at critical points in several people's lives - Kate, Sawyer, Sayid, Ilana, Locke, Jin and Sun, Jack, and Hurley. I am trying to figure out what those people have in common, or if Jacob visited EVERYONE and we're only seeing the ones who are still in the cast, lol.) The nature of this conflict seems to be that the evil dude espouses the Lord of the Flies version of human nature, whereas Jacob believes people can be better than that? So far, Jacob's been proven wrong every time, but he keeps thinking maybe this time will be different. And for whatever reason, they can't kill each other.
And now the evil dude's wearing a Locke suit in order to convince Ben to kill Jacob. Which seems like an awful lot of effort to go through for this loophole - wouldn't it have been easier to convince Locke to kill Jacob while he was still alive? Since the evil dude can obviously appear as other people, and Locke's pretty damn gullible.
But okay, so the smoke monster is the one who told Ben to do whatever Locke says, so the smoke monster is a manifestation of the evil dude. And all the things that led to Locke dying and returning to the island were prompted by Christian - which means that Christian is probably also the evil dude, so we probably shouldn't believe anything he says. Which makes me (a) want to rewatch every scene where the smoke monster or someone dead or not on the island appeared in order to figure out whether they were ALL the evil dude, and how that was pushing the characters in a particular direction, (b) worried about Claire, who is pretty much definitely a goner now, and (c) wonder how Sun is going to get in the same time with everyone else, since no one has any interest in helping her. Assuming they're not all dead in 1977, of course.
Also, this has little to do with anything, but I now have a whole personal canon thing worked out where The Immortal Richard is actually The Immortal, you know, Angel and Spike's nemesis, and he leaves the island occasionally to do his Immortal business in Rome or whatever. But seriously, Nestor Carbonell + Sarah Michelle Gellar? HOT.
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Date: Apr. 19th, 2011 01:26 am (UTC)Look forward to seeing your feelings on the last season!
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Date: Apr. 20th, 2011 04:08 pm (UTC)So far, I'm not sure how I feel about the last season...
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Date: Apr. 20th, 2011 11:39 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: Apr. 24th, 2011 06:10 pm (UTC)