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next_to_normal) wrote2009-03-04 08:34 pm
next_to_normal) wrote2009-03-04 08:34 pm
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Food for thought
This is something I never noticed from "As You Were," which I only just picked up on while rereading the transcript. Here's Riley's speech to Buffy at the end of the episode (with Buffy's interjections edited out):
"Buffy, none of that means anything. It doesn't touch you. You're still the first woman I ever loved and the strongest woman I've ever known. And I'm not advertising this to the missus, but you're still quite the hottie. [...] So you're not in the greatest place right now. And maybe I made it worse. Wheel never stops turning, Buffy. You're up, you're down... it doesn't change what you are. And you are a hell of a woman."
Sound... familiar?
Here's Spike's speech from "Touched":
"I'm not asking you for anything. When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you. And I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy."
Seems interesting to me that two very different lovers of Buffy's would hit on such similar themes, even use the exact same wording at times. (Particularly when Riley's speech comes in an episode where Spuffy fans love to vilify him.) Don't know what it means, but it sure is interesting, and I've never seen it pointed out before.
"Buffy, none of that means anything. It doesn't touch you. You're still the first woman I ever loved and the strongest woman I've ever known. And I'm not advertising this to the missus, but you're still quite the hottie. [...] So you're not in the greatest place right now. And maybe I made it worse. Wheel never stops turning, Buffy. You're up, you're down... it doesn't change what you are. And you are a hell of a woman."
Sound... familiar?
Here's Spike's speech from "Touched":
"I'm not asking you for anything. When I say, "I love you," it's not because I want you or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me. I love what you are, what you do, how you try. I've seen your kindness and your strength. I've seen the best and the worst of you. And I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You're a hell of a woman. You're the one, Buffy."
Seems interesting to me that two very different lovers of Buffy's would hit on such similar themes, even use the exact same wording at times. (Particularly when Riley's speech comes in an episode where Spuffy fans love to vilify him.) Don't know what it means, but it sure is interesting, and I've never seen it pointed out before.
Re: too long and not all that coherent reply
because is a reminder that he's following her lead despite what he wants and feels he should do.
Hmm... I think part of that is Riley's personality - he's a soldier, trained to follow orders, and in this case, Buffy has the authority, so he follows her order - but I think it's also a show of respect for Buffy's feelings. I mean, can you imagine how much it would have hurt Buffy if he'd gone ahead and killed Spike? I can't believe he would do that to her, no matter how much he hated Spike or thought he was a danger.
from an outsider's perspective straightening out her life is something that doesn't have to be too hard.
Yeah, I think that makes sense. Sometimes it takes an outsider to put things in perspective - you don't notice it as much when you're living it day in and day out, but an outsider can come in and easily see how much you've changed, and often point out a path you didn't recognize on your own.