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next_to_normal ([personal profile] next_to_normal) wrote2008-12-02 10:20 pm

Spike has two doors!

Thanks to everyone who voted in the poll. It was kind of a trick question. :) No lie... [livejournal.com profile] slaymesoftly and I thought we were going crazy. She was sure the door was wood, which it certainly looks like in these screencaps:





But I remembered the outside view from "Dead Things," in which Spike's door looks (to me) like weathered stone, though it could also be metal:



Also note the door has windows, with what looks like opaque glass and metal lattice.

On the inside, it's pretty dark, so it's hard to tell what the door looks like, but there's definitely no window:



Once Spike goes outside, the window is back, plus a cute little door handle that is distinctly different from the handle in OMWF (see above):



Patti and I were ready to call it sloppy set design and assume that no attempt had been made to match the doors on the exterior crypt set and the interior crypt set. Until we saw this:





Two doors!! An outer one (which I'm still not sure what it's made of) with the lattice windows and a cute little doorknob, and an inner one, which is solid and looks to be wooden. How is it that no one's noticed this before? And what kind of crack was the person who built this crypt smoking? Unless Spike installed the second door himself, why on earth would a crypt need a double door?

But I think the most significant thing about this discovery is that it puts the "Dead Things" door scene in a whole new perspective. Y'all thought they had some kind of connection, didn't ya? Well, turns out they were making love to different doors! lol

I wonder if that's supposed to be a metaphor for their relationship or something...

Oh, and one more for the conspiracy theorists - in "As You Were," Spike's crypt door definitely opens backwards. What do you suppose that means? ;)



Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go rewrite all my scenes in Spike's crypt to account for his double doors...


[identity profile] empresspatti.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Which gives you a door - depending on interior or exterior crypt scenes - to place the camera...

[identity profile] my-perfect-muse.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
LOL! The tragedy of double doors. I have seen crypts that have more than one door (don't ask for the long story) but that's generally crypts that have more than one room, like big family crypts where children and parents are separated.

But I could swear that there have been a few times where Buffy has kicked in the door to Spike's crypt (from the outside) and it the immediate following shot is inside, with the door being kicked open. Does this mean she kicks both doors open? Or does she politely open the first door and kick open the second door? You have certainly unearthed a mystery here
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[personal profile] rahirah 2008-12-03 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
OK, that's just NOT FAIR.

[identity profile] dee81.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
Hee! You should write a spoof fic about Buffy trying to storm into Spike's crypt and having an annoyingly difficult time due to the confusion of the double doors. I could picture her getting all huffy because it's taking away from the beating up/sex time with Spike :D

[identity profile] fangfaceandrea.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
But I think the most significant thing about this discovery is that it puts the "Dead Things" door scene in a whole new perspective. Y'all thought they had some kind of connection, didn't ya? Well, turns out they were making love to different doors! lol

I wonder if that's supposed to be a metaphor for their relationship or something...


*Snerk* *LOL* *Snerk*


heee, so I guess we all were a little right. and that makes Spuffy a bit more twisted than we're used to.

[identity profile] beloved-77.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I knew about the two doors. Of course, I do have a habit of picking nits :-P

[identity profile] lusciousxander.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 07:54 am (UTC)(link)
OMG, I never knew about the two doors!! All my fics that feature Spike's crypt are jossed now *pouts* :)

Great observation.

[identity profile] riccadonna.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 08:20 am (UTC)(link)
I woke up to find this post: now what am I supposed to do with the rest of my day?

[identity profile] bendy1.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 10:30 am (UTC)(link)
That makes... the door scene extra weird. And the kicking of the door scene even weirder.

[identity profile] dragonflylady77.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 10:33 am (UTC)(link)
Hehehe at making love to different doors..
On the subject of doors, I am *sure* I saw Buffy's front door open the other way in one episode, in season 1 or 2... I just can't remember when but I remember it shocked me.

And yes, why would a crypt need two doors.. *is puzzled*

[identity profile] ldyavalon.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
The two door thing would be at least sane if they were not together. Different escape route and all that (yes, I'm paranoid :P) But one next to the other. Unless one is decorative, or something :P
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[personal profile] silverusagi 2008-12-03 12:28 pm (UTC)(link)
And what kind of crack was the person who built this crypt smoking? Unless Spike installed the second door himself, why on earth would a crypt need a double door?

Why on earth would a crypt need to be that big, LOL? I suppose if you've got money to build a crypt as big as a small apartment (with only one apparent sarcophagus), you also do it with an entryway.

I wonder if that's supposed to be a metaphor for their relationship or something...

Like... 1. There's always space between them and they can never truly connect. 2. Oops, we forgot about the doors while filming this.

[identity profile] louise39.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
What fun! Where is the continuity of set design? No wonder their relationship is so disjointed and fluid when even a door has no permanence.

[identity profile] larabeckinsale.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Two doors!! An outer one (which I'm still not sure what it's made of) with the lattice windows and a cute little doorknob, and an inner one, which is solid and looks to be wooden. How is it that no one's noticed this before? And what kind of crack was the person who built this crypt smoking? Unless Spike installed the second door himself, why on earth would a crypt need a double door?


LOL... It really doesn't make any sense the two doors thing! But I think Spike installed the second one, I think it was in "Something Blue" that we see the crypt (where the scoobies are attacked by the demons) that would eventually become Spike's and I think by then it only had one door... maybe...

[identity profile] menomegirl.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL! Great detective work and wow does that put a different perspective on that door/sex scene or what?

[identity profile] kimrae1977.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Didn't everyone know about the two doors? *blinks innocently*
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[identity profile] moscow-watcher.livejournal.com 2008-12-03 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow. Never noticed that. Live and learn! :)
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[personal profile] yourlibrarian 2009-01-04 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
I remember noting the two doors before, but never thought about it in relation to that scene! I imagine it was built that way to avoid having to build an outside set when the door opens.

[identity profile] gabrielleabelle.livejournal.com 2009-05-16 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
My sister suggests that this is a mud room where people can leave their shoes and coats before entering his crypt. She's weird.