I agree it's not productive, which is why I was surprised that you re-raised the issue -- and not by replying in a comment thread, but in a completely new post. It seemed to me like it had been well and truly done to death on eilowyn's thread. But having it re-raised made me feel called on to explain why I didn't think your amendment to Eilowyn's argument worked.
Anyway, enough of this. I am not, for the record saying you all don't feel what you feel or shouldn't feel what you feel. I don't mean *any* of this to say anybody should like season 8. I just don't like seeing charges levelled that I regard as unfair. I'm failing to make myself clear about why I think these charges were unfair, and it's not helpful to keep trying to explain why I thought they were unfair. But that is what I was trying to do. I've been known to defend people I hate when my sense of fair play gets violated. I'll try to refrain from that reaction on this subject in the future. Obviously from your POV it's all been fair play which would make my own reactions seem offensive to you. And for that, I am sorry.
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Anyway, enough of this. I am not, for the record saying you all don't feel what you feel or shouldn't feel what you feel. I don't mean *any* of this to say anybody should like season 8. I just don't like seeing charges levelled that I regard as unfair. I'm failing to make myself clear about why I think these charges were unfair, and it's not helpful to keep trying to explain why I thought they were unfair. But that is what I was trying to do. I've been known to defend people I hate when my sense of fair play gets violated. I'll try to refrain from that reaction on this subject in the future. Obviously from your POV it's all been fair play which would make my own reactions seem offensive to you. And for that, I am sorry.